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Have you been date raped?





posted by: famousde on Dec 24, 2004 at 4:15pm
Have you been date raped?

Has anyone ever been date raped and didn't say anything? I don't understand date rape. If you have been, how do you know the guy wasn't just as drunk or out of it as you? What was it that happened that enables it to be categorized as rape?





posted by: bobby on Dec 24, 2004 at 4:21pm

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Probably the lack of consent...

Foshizzle





posted by: famousde on Dec 24, 2004 at 4:45pm
Have you been date raped?

Yes but it isn't always that simple alpec. What if both parties were fucked up, big time, and then the chick says she was date raped? Perhaps she didn't consent - and was so fucked up she didn't know exactly what she was doing, but hey, the dude could have been super fucked up too and no known what he was doing, right?





posted by: bobby on Dec 24, 2004 at 5:57pm

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Good point. Nothing's that simple...

I suspect Kobe had consentual sex, and the lady called rape...

Foshizzle





posted by: WhiteRabbit on Jan 4, 2005 at 8:27pm

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Date rape doesn't happen just when you are drunk.  I was 16 and on a date with a 23 year old.  I thought he was cool and sophisticated.  We never touched a drop of alcohol the entire night.  Anyway, after serious fooling around at the drive in then in his car on the way home, we ended up on my living sofa (mom was sleeping upstairs).  Things started to get a little too intense  for me (I was a virgin), and I told him to stop.  He kept going.  I started struggling, and finally let out a yell.  He threw me back on the couch, and held me down with one hand, wrapped around my neck.  I almost passed out.  He told me that if I didn't, he would do it anyway.  I was terrified, so I complied.  It was awful, humiliating and very painful.  Afterward, he looked at me with contempt, and left.  No goodbye, call you... nothing.  His fingers left bruises on my neck.  The next day, I pretended like nothing happened because I really didn't understand what had happened.  I was kid, and had never had sex before.   Date rape didn't exist in 1982.  If you had sex on a date, it was because you wanted to.  I went to school with his brother, and everyone knew about it.  Except the version going around was that I was a slut to max.  Everyone thought the bruises on my neck were hickeys.  I lost my friends over it (they didn't associate with sluts).  My sisters found out, and when I would walk into a room, they would walk out or act like I wasn't there.  This lasted for weeks.  It was horrible.  When my mother found out, she beat the shit out of me.  Literally.  Moral of the story:  when a girl says no, assume she means no and walk away.





posted by: thegirldf on Jan 4, 2005 at 8:57pm

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I agree with WhiteRabbit. No means no. Even if you think she's being a tease, and she says no, you stop anyway. And just because she's drunk doesn't mean you can have your way. What sort of guy takes advantage of a drunk girl? Be a man and find a willing sover girl.


I think rapists are the most vile criminals, just above pedophiles. A few of my friends have been raped, and it just upsets me so much.





posted by: Guest on Feb 24, 2005 at 5:16pm

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well, the girl up there sounds like she had a bad experience and that guy was  real jerk to lose some control and and get so aroused. but I think that it is the nature of a guy to go for it after you get him past a certain point. Girls know this yet they take things to the point where they want and even though they know the guy is going to get super turned on, the girls will still play with fire and mess with the guys hormones. then when the guy responds the girl feels guilty and feels sluty and so she convinces herself it is date rape when really she instigated it and asked for it. I think that date rape is pretty much bs and that it is an accusation that people make to get rid of their own guilt.





posted by: WhiteRabbit on Feb 24, 2005 at 7:04pm

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Guest, register if you want your opinion to count.... asshole.





posted by: rodeokisses on Feb 24, 2005 at 7:36pm

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get em rabbit 





posted by: seawitch on Feb 25, 2005 at 1:35am

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I really can't stand the 'she was asking for it' theory. Even assuming that a girl does tease and does lead a guy on, no still means no. If the girl doesn't want to have sex but the guy does it anyway then it's rape. If the guy is so out of control that he can't stop, that makes him no better than an animal. Saying date rape is bs is like saying a woman has no right to change her mind, and if she does then the guy has every right to humiliate her.


Then let's not forget about the use of date rape drugs. It's enough for a woman to never ever let a man buy her a drink. I think the most prominently used one in the US is called Rohypnol, which is basically medication used for sleeping disorders. The guy just slips some into the woman's drink and before she knows it she wakes up in some strange place and it's obvious she's been raped. I think this has got to be the lowest form of rape (excluding kids) because the victim doesn't even get a chance to defend herself.





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Get Fucked.





posted by: WhiteRabbit on Feb 25, 2005 at 10:26am

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Don't you just love it when guests hide behind their anominity?  What a coward.  My statement stands:  register.  Asshole.





posted by: Guest on Feb 25, 2005 at 3:51pm

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Well once in a while maybe rape does happen on a date. but then it is rape not date rape. but most of these cases are just some tramp feeling guilting of some teen that needs something to tell her mom so she doesn't have to take the blame for it. if this wasn't the case, the girls would call it rape and act accordingly but calling the police right away and pressing rape charges and the whole nine. date rape if another way to not accept personal accountabitlity. the girl above has several inconsistancies in her story and i think that probably what actually happened is that SHE let things go to far and then felt guilty after and blamed the guy and made him out to be more forceful than he was.





posted by: LadyInsane on Feb 25, 2005 at 4:26pm

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guest...you obviously haven't been raped or you don't know any one who has.





posted by: WhiteRabbit on Feb 25, 2005 at 6:18pm

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Ok, i understand why that asshole may think that because that is how dumbass guys think.   A 16 year old kid felt special being asked on a date by a much older guy.  She thought she was cool.  He used, manipulated, and FORCED himself on her.  When she got TERRIFIED because he was forcing her to do something she wasn't ready to do, she struggled, and she was RAPED.  


Fuck off asshole.  You don't know anything, and I hope to GOD that your sister/mother/aunt/cousin/whatever NEVER has to experience what I did because you, being the total fucked up person that you are, will blame THEM.  You are a fucking asshole.





posted by: rodeokisses on Feb 25, 2005 at 8:37pm

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wow rabbit, just let it flow.  Holy gloves flying.  Good show my dear.  The term "date rape" comes not from being on the a "date" with someone. Date rape is a term derived from being raped by a friend or someone known to you, not like a stranger in a dark alley.  It seems to happen alot.  Quite often, young girls virginities are taken by "date-rapists".  It isn't right no matter how you argue.  A virginity is a sacred thing to a girl. (not saying it isn't special for boys). It's the one thing she owns all to herself.  It's not something loaned or bought.  I feel for you Rabbit.  I have been there.  I have seen that look in the mirror after.  Feeling dirty and degraded.  For some people it's easy to push aside and make a remark that's unwelcome.  It's frustrating to you.  But remember this, your body sheds million cells everyday.  It takes the human body 7 years to completely shed thoughly.  The body you have now was never touched by him.  Chin up.





posted by: WhiteRabbit on Feb 25, 2005 at 8:43pm

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Thank you Rodeo.  I appreciate your support and understanding.





posted by: Guest on Feb 26, 2005 at 12:54pm

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well I am sorry you have to attack me for my oppinion. If date rape is really rape then how come so many are not reported? I will offer my thought as to why. i think that  most are not reported because the girl knows inside that she is 1/2 reponsible for it and that she could have stopped or prevented it. she is ashamed that she let it happen and she is subconsciously mad at herself but conciously blames it all on the guy so she can live with it.





posted by: ValuePackedWeddingTackle on Feb 26, 2005 at 1:03pm

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Very insightful observation guest. Judging by her defensiveness, I think it is likely that rabbit has a lot of guilt about this date and her anger is a result of this guilt. I can understand the guilt and rabbit you should let it go. Everybody makes mistakes. I do think it is good that you didn’t get this guy arrested because of your guilt, or did you?



Guest, might I suggest that you register? People might cut your more slack if you register, however – like in my case – they might not. Rabbit, in my opinion, all you can do is do things differently now and not let things happen that shouldn’t and that you will feel guilty about. Let it go.





posted by: WhiteRabbit on Feb 26, 2005 at 3:56pm

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Value Packed, first of all, thank you for your insightful response.  I really appreciate the fact that you are sensitive to the trauma something like that can cause a person.  Second, when the truth came out about what happened to me, my mother did not prosecute because the guy was a friend of hers.  So, in a sense, I was raped twice.  I was not angry because of guilt, I did not do anything wrong.  I got angry because no one has the right to tell me it was my fault some sicko who likes taking advantage of underage girls has the right to do whatever he wants simply because he got too excited.  THAT is what pissed me off.





posted by: pantyKitten on Feb 27, 2005 at 12:52am

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How can the Guest and VPWT think they know what happened or anything about date rape? Have either of you been date raped or been the rapist?





posted by: thegirldf on Feb 27, 2005 at 9:58am

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Rape of any kind is an awful thing, and it disgusts me that so many people do not take it seriously. So much leverage is given to men in those circumstances and I hate it when it's painted as the woman's fault. The woman or girl should no way be made to be a victim twice by the man and then by society (or other way around since I think men can also be raped) So many people do not seem to understand that rape is a rape of the body, mind, the life, the self worth- everything.





posted by: Guest on Feb 27, 2005 at 5:24pm

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BS. It takes two to tango. A friend would not force you if not at all enticed to do so. You all want to blame it on everything but yourselves. Drugs, guys, oh and now society is raping you too? Come on, stand up and take responsibility for the things that happen. Stop persecuting these guys when it is ussually a mutual mistake. And when the guy is accused of this bogus type of crime, because of your guilt - it tarnishes his reputation, more than yours, once it’s out there, even if he is not to blame.


 





posted by: LadyInsane on Feb 27, 2005 at 6:05pm

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your ignorance speaks for itself





posted by: thegirldf on Feb 27, 2005 at 6:11pm

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Guest- if you have such strong opinions why don't you register?





posted by: WhiteRabbit on Feb 27, 2005 at 7:17pm

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Because that guest is a coward.  It speaks to what their true character is.  Pathetic.





posted by: rodeokisses on Feb 27, 2005 at 7:36pm

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More times than not a woman loses her virginity to a monster that cares not if the woman is turned on and wants to continue.  They want what they want.  There are sickos that target girls that are easily taken advantage of.  It could be from their upbringing or shyness.  Whatever the case, Rape is rape and it happens alot.  No, it is not easy for someone to go to the authorities.  You feel small and insignificant.  Your sef-esteem plunders.  But that doesn't make it right.





posted by: WhiteRabbit on Feb 27, 2005 at 7:59pm

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Well said, Rodeo.





posted by: seawitch on Feb 28, 2005 at 6:29am

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More times than not a woman loses her virginity to a monster that cares not if the woman is turned on and wants to continue.


I disagree with this in that I think MOST women do not lose their virginity in an act of rape. I do think that rape is awful like I said above but cowardly-guest-who-refuses-to-register made a valid point in the midst of all that hate and bull. I'm sure it's in a very small minority of cases but sometimes guys ARE wrongly accused of rape. By women who are jealous, who have been turned down, who have not managed to obtain what they wanted. These cases, while by no means the majority, do exist. And I feel sorry for them because a man who has been wrongfully accused of rape, even if he's the nicest guy on the planet, will have the toughest time getting any woman to trust him and believe in him. He'll probably hate women for the rest of his life. And maybe rightfully so. I wonder if that's what happened to VPWT.......





posted by: thegirldf on Feb 28, 2005 at 10:22am

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I dunno Seawitch- I can name about 5 or 6 girls off the top of my head I know that lost their virginity in that awful way. Maybe it doesn't seem like there are many, because women of all ages are raped.





posted by: Jestaaranger on Mar 5, 2005 at 7:01am

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I don't know where this fits in here....a friend of mine years ago, being young(23) and succesful, bought a house.  Now being this young and buying a nice house is reasonably successful I think, but he sure liked to party.  Often he would throw party's at his house and soon a few girls from the neighborhood started dropping in.  He was attracted to one of the girls and she said she was 18.  Heck, she was hanging out at his house and partying until 2 or 3 am.  Well, this relationship built slowly and they eventually did have sex.  Not long after, her mom comes to his door with cops and he's arrested.  The way I saw it, the mom saw a succesful young guy and she was after money and yes she did try and file a civil suit.  He went to jail and we aren't close friends anymore because it does bother me that he slept with a 14 year old.  Now, I can't say who was more screwed up in this situation.  Was he dumb for not keeping his dick in his pants?  She could easily pass for 18-20.  Was this girl just a conniving little bitch starving for attention?  Her parents obviously didn't give a crap because she was out carousing untill 2am.  Or were the parents fucked up?


Not condoning any form of rape whatsoever.  Just sharing a story of what happened to a friend. 





posted by: rodeokisses on Mar 5, 2005 at 8:32am

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Ok, I understand this happens. A man should question age before entering anything sexual. I say this because I knew alot of girls at young ages that looked older. I know I did. If this girl came over frequently enough he should have gotten to know her. Also, it is true that some trash will try and take advantage of someone that has their shit together. Someone that DOES have their shit together also should have been aware of the lurking dangers of people looking to take advantage of their situation. I can also say that is one mistake he learned by.(hopefully) Never judge a book by it's cover. or even The devil wears many masks. 





posted by: Guest on Mar 5, 2005 at 11:17am

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This is all total bullshit. People do not ussually lose their virginity to rape. And date rape is bullshit. If it was rape it would be called rape.





posted by: Guest on Apr 28, 2005 at 8:21pm

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I agree. Date rape is just a card that women pull to get out of taking responsibility for doing something they are ashamed of.





posted by: T-Marley on Apr 29, 2005 at 6:29am

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How can you rationally say that every case of date rape has one reason, Guest?  There is absoloutely no way that 100% of all date rapes are just women who regret or feel ashamed about having sex with a guy.  I am sure that it happens, and I'm sure it happens more than we will know, but to say something like that is stupid, neglectful, and the exact reason why so many people don't take women seriously when they say this. While women who do that are horrible women and they need to learn how to accept responsibility and the consequences for their actions, and all they do is make it so that the real victims get accused of crying wolf.  It isn't worth turning a blind eye to all of the people who claim date rape, because there is nothing that we can do in this world that is more wrong than not take every one of those claims as bogus.  I can not imagine how it must feel to be a girl that was raped, and then on top of the trauma of that, having to know that everyone thinks I'm just a lying whore who fucks and regrets.   No one in this world should have to go through that, and it's sad that other women can be so selfish and emotionless to do this to other women.





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And to the guy who says that date rape would be called rape if it was rape...umm..date RAPE, see where they call it rape?  They then use the word DATE in front of it as a sub-category of RAPE.  Because, date rape by definition is different than some guy grabbing you while you are jogging and raping you in the bushes.  Date rape is done by someone you have a reason to trust, and mostly involves a guy who you possibly had strong feelings for.  I can not even understand how any rational being can even put up such an invalid statement, nor how any of you can put up such an invalid arguement.  It sickens me to think that you males over there can possibly not care about someone doing that to a girl, and just chalk it up to "She said no but she really wanted it" or "She said yes and she just regrets it now".  Unfortunately, due to the private nature of sex it will always come down to a he said she said....but my goodness. None of you are omnipresent, clairvoyant, or psychic mind readers.  If you were not there then you truly do not know, and the only way to find out is to have an impartial investigation to get to the truth.  As hard as it may be to find the truth buried in two peoples lies, there is no way you can go into a situation like that with any preconceived answers, as every single situation is going to be different.





posted by: thegirldf on Apr 29, 2005 at 8:00am

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That was great, T! It's nice to see that some guys have some compassion...





posted by: Divinity77 on Apr 29, 2005 at 8:19am

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I totally agree with T. I would write more about this topic.. but it would just be pretty much what he said lol.





posted by: MT_Lightning on Apr 29, 2005 at 10:18am

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yup, again, pretty much exaclty what T said.


I have not been raped, either daterape or otherwise, but know a couple people who have.  It is one of the most traumatic, scarring events that can happen to a person.  Saying that it's just a card - well, that's just plain ignorance. But then again, the two comments that are pulling that are from "guest" who never responded, or registered and claimed their posts.  A little chicken shit, I think. 


 





posted by: Jestaaranger on Apr 29, 2005 at 10:52am

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Hey guest...those are sum purty wurds.  I bet yoo have sum nice lips, ever been to prison?  lol





posted by: Agorasauras on Apr 29, 2005 at 11:18am

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Wow, this thread just made me really sad and annoyed.

I cant believe that date rape is taken so lightly by some people.



Date rape, rape, whatever the fuck you wanna call it.. rape is rape.

If you say no, even if youre a guy, NO MEANS NO.



Get that... Ill repeat NO MEANS NO.

I have never been raped luckily, but i have had guys try to get what they want and Im not having it.



Thank goodnes for kickboxing lessons.



I mean sure there are some bad grapes in the bunch who try to fuck
others over iwth lies and deception, but not ALL girls are like that.
Thats a terrible generalization (sp) to make about women. Not all women
call rape because they feel guilty..... thats just shitty to even
say.  Date rape ahappens all the time and most of the time it goes
unreported bc, as it has been mentioned above, girls are ashamed, or
they arent really sure what happened bc they are young still.



Guest, you should step out of the lines and look at the big picture a bit more, instead of being such an ass.



Have some consideration for people.....



Dick.












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This is why my girls are taking self defense and jiu jitsu.  Fucktards like that give give men a bad rep and just need to get their ass whooped.  A woman needs to be treated like a lady, period.  I don't care how worked up or turned on a man gets, it's no excuse and to say a woman needs to take responsibility...holy crap....that's like saying, you, our dear guest, will have to take responsibility of my fist meeting your face for such thoughtless bullshit.


We would probably cut you a little more slack if you registered to voice your opinion, but to hide as a guest...I'm just thinking we're talking to a rapist...and guess what they do to rapists in prison...





posted by: famousde on Apr 29, 2005 at 12:12pm
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Dear guest,


you can say whatever opinion you wish here. But, people seem to be more tolerant when you register first if you are going to put forth particularly controversial view points.


good luck


de





posted by: johnjacob on Apr 29, 2005 at 6:13pm

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"If date rape is really rape then how come so many are not reported? I will offer my thought as to why. i think that  most are not reported because the girl knows inside that she is 1/2 reponsible for it and that she could have stopped or prevented it. she is ashamed that she let it happen and she is subconsciously mad at herself but conciously blames it all on the guy so she can live with it."  -  written by a ignorant fuck. 


In response to this embarrasingly ignorant statement, i have to explain something to the cowardly little bitch who wrote such bullshit.  I'm all for people expressing unpopular opinions, i hate liars, and for the most part i wish feminists would choke to death on the smoke from the bras they burn, but your ignorance on this issue is laughable and makes chauvenist men like me look bad so I have to respond.  Do you want to know why more "date rapes" dont go reported?  its very simple.  I have a good friend who was molested by her uncle from about 1st grade untill 6th grade.  She went 6 years without saying a word about it to anyone.  In fact she was never going to tell anyone but she finally admitted it after she tried to kill herself a few years ago because she was so sick of reliving the trauma every single night she went to sleep.  She had nightmares every fucking night, and would get so terrified she would wake up and puke.  this is 9 years after it happened.  when she finally told her mother, that was it, she refused to press charges because it was her fathers brother.  Morever, she couldnt tell her father because she couldnt live with him goign to jail for killing the bastard, and even more so she couldnt live with him merely knowing that such an awful thing happened to her.  When she told her brother, he didnt believe it.  when her mother made her go to a psychologist after she tried to kill herself, the nightmares just got more vivid when she was forced to talk about it, and she wouldnt even tell the psychologist the details, because she felt so humiliated by what happened, that she couldnt bare to speak about it.  And you know what the sickest part is, she feels guilty about it.  She blames herself for not saying something, "for letting it happen."   what you dont understand and cant get through your fucking thick neanderthal head, is that your right, women do feel guilty when they are date raped, and yes they do blame themsleves, and yes they are ashamed, so they dont report it to the cops.  Your right about that.  But where your wrong is that they shouldnt feel guilty, if they say no thats all it should take.  Fuck that they shoudlnt even need to say know.  I fucking hate seeing guys paw at girls who obviously dont want to have anything to do with them.  SHit ive been in a bed drunk of my ass with a girl who voluntarily came to bed with me who was drunk as well, and i stopped because she didnt know if she wanted to ruin our friendship.  You think i gave a fuck about ruining our friendship? no i was a drunk guy, but i have enough fuckign self respect to not try to get with a girl who isnt sure that she wants it.  thats all it should take, a fucking glimmer of a doubt.  Only cowardly, small dicked, prick with no game needs to pressure a woman into sex.  I bottem line is this guest, learn something breofre you spout off, and embarrass yourself.  Rape is awful because its more than a physical assualt, it assualts a girls emotions and spirit as well.  women who have been date raped suffer much of the same trouble as a 6 year old girl who is molested, it is normally someone they know, so they have to continue to intereact either with them, or mutual friends or aquaintances, it is humiliating, they are scared to death dumb ignorant fucks liek you wont believe them, and in addition they are probably scared that if it is someone they know and they do report it they stand a chance suffering further physical or sexual violence at the hands of the rapist or his friends.  sometimes its just easier for a victim to try to forget about it regain control over their life. 





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Have you been date raped?

Get real people! Of course there is going to be some exceptions where a date rape is legitimate. I think what the guest is getting at is that, generally, the truth and responsibility is pretty muddy. These date rapes often happen while BOTH parties are consuming alcoholic beverages and I am sure the majority of the time the woman has given some pretty clear indication to the man that she is willing. So, because most of the date rape claims are "he said/she said" at best, why risk ruining innocent men all those times that the claim is bogus, in order to take seriously the very few proven cases where a rape actually occurs?





posted by: famousde on May 1, 2005 at 5:27pm
Have you been date raped?

Come on VP - I think the cases are valid more than you think.





posted by: bewayne on May 1, 2005 at 6:35pm

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Have you been date raped?

Not any reason ever to force anyone, male or female, to have any kind of sexual contact that is not mutually agreed upon period.


And even then the parties must be of an age to be able to responsibly consent.


Is it always rape?If one side has indicated not wanting the contact and an act occurs it is rape.


 





posted by: wallwalker on Jan 26, 2012 at 6:37pm

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Have you been date raped?

No I have not but I am willing to try.


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